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Testament to conversations on critical systems thinking between two systems practitioners
Authors:Robert L. Flood  Werner Ulrich
Affiliation:1. Sir Q. W. Lee Chair in Management Science, University of Hull, HU6 7RX, Hull, UK
2. Systems Intervention Ltd., Newbury, UK
3. PA Consultancy Group, London, UK
4. Department of Public Health and Social Services of the Canton of Berne, Berne, Switzerland
5. Department of Philosophy, University of Fribourg, Fribourg, Switzerland
Abstract:This is a testament to conversations held in Berne and Fribourg, Switzerland, in late 1988. The main theme that we present concerns seeking to find an adequate epistemology for systems practice, to find a ldquotrulyrdquo critical approach, by shifting our interests from ldquosystems sciencerdquo to ldquosystems rationalityrdquo (i.e., by ldquoreaching outrdquo toward a systems epistemological ideal) and by dealing with sociological phenomena such as the ldquoeffects of material conditionsrdquo and false consciousness and inequalities associated with these. Social rationalities relating to positivism, interpretivism, and critique are considered. Limitations and legitimacies of these rationalities in social contexts are made explicit in these discussions.Conversations were held in Berne and Fribourg, Switzerland, between 30 November and 5 December 1988.
Keywords:Critical Systems Theory  systems rationality  social rationality  pluralism  Liberating Systems Theory
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